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Bart Foster

Bart Foster joined Dr. John M. Torrens on The Total Entrepreneur for one episode on business.

What Bart talked about

Bart Foster discussed the idea of conducting business outdoors, arguing that walking shoulder-to-shoulder in nature makes people calmer, more authentic, and more willing to be vulnerable than they are in conventional settings like coffee meetings or lunches. He described specific practices for this, including a 'connection walk' and a '4-3-2-1' framework (four stories, three quotes, two facts, one question), which he uses to move conversations past small talk toward real emotional connection and trust between colleagues.

He also talked about being forced out of the company he founded, and how losing his CEO title required him to separate his sense of identity from his job. He described working through that period by clarifying his personal values and what he calls his 'zone of genius,' and connected this experience to his broader argument that trust, built partly through shared movement and practices like breathwork and cold exposure, is the foundation for healthy conflict, accountability, and results within teams.

The episode

EP 13 · Jan 24, 2025 · Business
The Power of Doing Business Outside with Bart Foster

In this episode, Dr. John Torrens is joined by Bart Foster, the Founder and CEO of Business Outside. They discuss the transformative power of nature on leadership and mental clarity, delving

The show

The Total Entrepreneur is a weekly conversation with founders, researchers, and health experts about what actually moves entrepreneurial performance across mind, body, spirit, and business.

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